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This is referring to the poll i had a couple days ago (which you can't really see anymore... 8/) This is going to be a little tl;dr so don't read if you don't like long scary journals. I apologize if I sound egotistical, but this is a very personal issue to me...

Why was I even thinking about disowning Hyung Soo, my APH North Korea OC?

This is an interesting question, and it's hard for me to answer...

About Hyung Soo.... The reason why i asked that question is because his design has become so canon that he is no longer "Hyung Soo," but he is now just "North Korea." If you ever talked to me about Hyung Soo, i never call him "North Korea" i always address him as Hyung or Hyung Soo. Because, in all truth, he is my original character, and I treat him as such. But ever since i created him, there has been so much acceptance and so much appreciation for him as a Hetalia OC, that Hyung Soo pretty much melded into the fandom. I'm not saying that i don't like that... I do! I appreciate it a lot and i feel very honored and proud that so many people accept Hyung as a legit Hetalia OC. But at the same time, every time the fandom accepts him more, the more i feel like that I'm letting him go. That he no longer belongs to me. That he's so ingrained into the Hetalia fandom, I don't feel like he's my character anymore. He's everybody's. All of Hetalia.

I hope that doesn't sound egotistical of me... but it's true. I can prove that every single rendition of North Korea that are all over DA and on the internet in general came from Hyung. If you look back through the history of the Hetalia Livejournal community, Hyung is the first MALE North Korea rendition created and posted in public. I know for certain that Hyung isn't the first actual rendition of North Korea because there have been renditions, but they were all mostly female characters. If you check Pixiv, Hyung is also the very first male North Korea OC to be posted. The fact that i'm bringing this up refers to all other North Korea OCs that were made after i created Hyung. What i want to ask is: Why does North Korea always have long hair? Do you have a reason? Or is it just supposed to be like that?

And every time I look at him or draw him, i just feel this deep sadness and loss. Does he belong to me anymore? Does Hyung exist anymore, or is he just now and completely "North Korea?"

I don't have a problem communicating to people on DA that Hyung belongs to me. His design belongs to me. And some people respect that and others think he's the perfect North Korea. But how do you know? Now i address why I don't want people to use Hyung in RPs any more. When you're in a role-play, you either create a character or you act as one that already exists. That requires you to know the character extremely well, from their emotions to their actions to their reactions to situations. People have come up to me and asked me to give them permission to RP Hyung. At first i didn't think anything about it and just let them do it. But after a while i noticed something. Their interpretation of Hyung was incorrect. It was exaggerated. It was what they "assumed" Hyung was like. They were basing their interpretation of his character on what "North Korea" acted like. The way i see it, people (who RP hyung) are essentially creating a North korea of their own, and then using Hyung's design. It doesn't make me angry or spiteful, I just feel bothered. Does North Korea really act like that?

Unfortunately, this whole emotional feeling I get with Hyung all started on Pixiv. Last year, i made a bold move and posted my pictures of Hyung on Pixiv, and called him "North Korea." After a couple months, even artists on pixiv have accepted Hyung as an acceptable rendition of North Korea... but that's also where the trouble comes. Soon after, i created a tag just for HyungSoo, and whenever people on pixiv drew North Korea, they'd use Hyung's tag. It was a huge gesture of acceptance to me. But after a while, people would draw "Hyung" but they didn't call him Hyung... they just call him North Korea. Whenever i see people draw North Korea on pixiv anymore, I get this rush of possessive emotions. "Hyung is mine, you're drawing him and yet you're not calling him Hyung. He's just 'North Korea' to you" So who are they drawing? North Korea? Who is north korea? Does Hyung belong to me? Or does he belong to Hetalia?

It's my own fault this is happening. It's my problem that i'm so possessive, that i attempt to boost my ego by spreading him around. And as i see more people accept him, the more I want to let him go. But as much as i want to let him go, I want to keep him.
I want to draw him, but i can never look at him without asking myself the questions that i've been writing all over this journal.

I'm sorry. This is the last time i write such a self-satisfying and arrogant journal. But I just wanted to let my emotions out. If this journal makes you think i'm one of the above, fine. I'm sorry. There's no better way for me to word my thoughts, so I hope you guys can accept it.

And i want to say thank you to everyone who loves Hyung for who he is, and for accepting him as North Korea. I hope this journal doesn't change your mind, and I hope you guys can understand where i'm coming from.
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:iconleanne-mcgrand:
I understand where you're coming from. Don't feel bad for writing this cuz it makes total sense! You should claim him back tho XD He is still your's and always will be. It might make you happy to hear that whenever I see him drawn by other artists, I think "Hey, Hyung Soo! Lo-wah's character!" :D
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:iconjasmineteen:
~JasmineTeen Oct 25, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I went over all the replies and found that they almost said what I wanna say, so I just wanna make it a short one.

It's very common that you'll have such feelings cuz you created the OC and take it as your little baby. You have every right to own it but you can't control what people portray him. It's the personification of a country, of course different fans will have different opinions about the character. But I fully understand how you feel when you saw so many people take him as the rendering of North Korea. Well, I strongly agree with the example of "Harry Potter", since your design is so fantastic that everybody believes it's great to take Hyung Soo as North Korea. Yeah, I know that really made you a bit uncomfortable...*pat*.

Well, perhaps I should apologize to you cuz I really didn't know who created the male character of North Korea unitl I joined in DA and found you (of course I know it now). I used to draw a picture of him and wrote him in my fanfiction but I really had no idea his name was Hyung Soo. Em... yeah, it's good to see you finally pour your feelings out and I'll show more respect to this character.

BTW, would u pls tell me the Chinese character of Hyung? Since Korean names also can be written in Chinese, I'm wondering Yong Soo is “勇洙” but what about "Hyung Soo"?

Thanks a lot ^^.
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:iconohmygoditsamber:
~ohmygoditsamber Oct 20, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
You have every right to be possessive!
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:iconkittychow:
~KittyChow Oct 20, 2010  Student Artisan Crafter
Haha me too! I don't really see any fan art of North Korea, and when I do, I'm just like.. Oh.. That kind of looks like Hyung Soo oppaaaahhh. :L I still think that yours has like, a separate identity from like all the other ones, since yours is like, the most legit to me. I think of yours as the "true" (in my head) North Korea. I think of Yong soo, I think of Hyung Soo. Nobody else. : D

:iconcryforeverplz:
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:iconkyrioib:
=KyrioiB Oct 19, 2010  Student Digital Artist
I'll keep it short since Im scared of posting long ones.

It's fine to feel this way. It's fine to scream it out. It doesn't sound egotistical if it's the truth really it doesn't and don't let him go.

End message now I will proceed to run to the sunset 8D
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:iconjdillius:
I hope you feel better after writing your thoughts out. I can only vaguely imagine how you feel about Hyung, so I don't really know what to say besides that I don't think you should feel sorry.

About people defining Hyung = North Korea and vice versa, I think it's because most people find it hard to imagine/create a new "North Korea" out of thin air after seeing Hyung. It's kind of like how people see "Harry Potter" in people with similar glasses even though they look nothing alike...if that makes sense....
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:iconninken-sama:
~Ninken-sama Oct 18, 2010  Student General Artist
I can see where you're coming from because I've had some people take my creatures I made up myself and consider them their own, but some people believed they were cannon.

People out there who can't really draw tend to 'take and claim.' I've seen people try and do that with my art in rl too.

You have every right to consider the character as your own. It's not right that people are misusing them, though I don't really understand why you would be mad at someone for using him in an rp.

Is it because you want them to think of their own Oc? Or do you think they're not doing a good job of representing what you think of your own character?

I hope you don't mind me asking this...;_;
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:iconrainbowgorilla:
Oh fandom. How you make us crazy.

I think how your feeling it completely normal. You sorta sound like a mother who's kids are growing up too fast (lol). Hyung Soo is YOUR character. You thought of his personality and looks and everything all from that smart brain of yours. And you know inside that he is YOURS. That will never change. Sure he is apart of the Hetalia OC fandom and stuff but they fans didn't create him. You did. Its like you can't have fast food without McDonald's. Well Hyung Soo is your McDonald's (wow my metaphor is just..I don't even:XD:)

If you don't like how people are portraying him maybe you should draw more of him? I'm not trying to force you to draw him like a crazy fan, but I'm just saying the more you draw him, the more people with understand him (if you draw him in comics and stuff). Or maybe you could make your own character info card for him so people would know who Hyung Soo really is.
I really feel like I'm being pushy right now :worry: So I'm just gonna stop talking lol. But thanks for showing us your feelings on this :heart:
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:iconkyuzoaoi:
~kyuzoaoi Oct 17, 2010  Student Artist
I think it all because Himaruya might never reveal the canon North Korea, the fans declared your own version of NK as fanon. This could be disturbing if not handled properly.

We had a similar problems with our own country. When there is a picture of Vietnam by Himaruya's blog, it was distinctive enough to assume this is a different country. So many Filipino fans adopted it as the Philippines. When it turned that the Asia3 drawing, as it was called, was after all, Vietnam, Filipino fans had thrown rage to Himaruya because merely the Philippines remained un-revealed.

This Filipino fan's displeasure at what happened at the Filipino APH fandom can be summarized here. It's in mixed English and Filipino, so I translated the Filipino parts for you.

"I was wandering around reading stuff in the Wiki.

I'm not planning to offend anyone with this. I just wanna share with you guys something.
Seriously, I think some Filipino fans are going a little too far with this "make a Philippines, Himaruya" stuff. Me, I really want it.. however, when I read the article, it made us sound like we were desperate to have our country represented in the manga/anime.

Are we going too far? Are we starting to sound like the Koreans?"

I wanna know what you guys think.

[link]

It's like how the South Koreans had actually tried to remove South Korea from the anime because it didn't fit their ideal Korean character.



But please continue your North Korea character. I feel this original character of yours is the most rounded of all North Korean OCs. It's just that the fans are...well too rabid for their own good.
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:iconkoookeees:
~koookeees Oct 17, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Don't feel bad about writing stuff like this. I guess its normal for people who make OCs. :o

I don't call North Korea "Hyung Soo" not because I DON'T acknowledge him as "Hyung Soo" but because I don't really call the countries by their people names. :\
But yea when I try drawing him for fun my classmates who watch hetalia usually ask me who he is. Sometimes they mistake him as China with braids. xD But I'm like "lol thats North Korea. Do you know Lo-wah in DA? Its her OC. NORTH KOREA IS SO AWESOME." So yea I just don't like calling the countries by their people names but I write their people names beside the drawings sometimes. lol if you don't believe me i have proof =P
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